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Mar 22
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Global Warming: Hoax, Hype & Hidden AgendaPosted by gregjaye08 in Untagged  |
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Earlier this month 500 people attended the 2008 International Conference on Climate Change in New York City. The conference was virtually ignored by the biased main stream media and the cadre of global warming alarmists. The attendees ... were some very well respected (many retired) scientists, researchers, academicians, policy makers and business people.
The purpose of the conference was to contest the notion put forth by the main stream media and academia that the global warming debate is over. It also was intended to contest the apparent mandate of the global warming alarmists that drastic measures must be undertaken immediately to avoid global catastrophe, end of discussion.
After an intense 2-day conference with 100 presentations one of the chief results of the conference was the following declaration. I have added bold lettering for emphasis. If you don't read anything else read the words in bold to garner the gist of the insightful declaration, which says in part . . . Go here to read the entire Declaration.
The Manhattan Declaration on Climate Change
Global warming is not a global crisis . . .
Resolving that scientific questions should be evaluated solely by the scientific method;
Affirming that global climate has always changed and always will, independent of the actions of humans, and that carbon dioxide (CO2) is not a pollutant but rather a necessity for all life; . . .
Hereby declare:
. . . THAT THERE IS NO CONVINCING EVIDENCE THAT CO2 EMISSIONS FROM MODERN INDUSTRIAL ACTIVITY HAS IN THE PAST, IS NOW, OR WILL IN THE FUTURE CAUSE CATASTROPHIC CLIMATE CHANGE.
. . . That human-caused climate change is not a global crisis . . .
Agreed at New York, 4 March 2008. [End of Declaration]
... Myron Ebell told Tony Perkins on the Family Research Center's Washington Watch Radio Show recently that among conference participants were many scientists, economists, policy makers who do not agree that there is a consensus on global warming. In fact, there are two distinct camps on the question of global warming or climate control, the skeptics and their opponents the alarmists.
The global warming alarmists, with the aid of the main stream media, have declared that there is scientific consensus on global warming. This is similar to what academia and the scientific community say about another flawed theory, evolution. Ebell indicated that the alarmists were invited to the conference, but all declined. As Glenn Beck's video shows, few reporters or journalists covered this important conference ...
... Ebell summarizes it this way, "The first step in this debate is that we have got to limit our use of burning coal, oil and natural gas." Next, he says we will have to do with a lot less energy resources, "We are going to have to live more like people in poor (and) developing countries." "The next thing which you now see coming out of radical environmentalism as part of the grant-coalition supporting global warming alarmism is POPULATION CONTROL and they are very clear about it. There are way too many people on earth and we have got to radically reduce the number of people."
Read more here, where the two-part series of articles were originally posted yesterday and today.
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written by gregjaye08, March 22, 2008
I, too, would love to see Algore taken to court for fraud and deceit. He has made millions on convenient lies.
written by gregjaye08, March 24, 2008
The same is true with the flawed evolution theory. It is taught exclusively in government schools as “science” and any alternative is promoting “flat earth”. Why can’t these so-called academics or scientists deal with challenges to their theories? I do not buy either because both are severely flawed theories with larger gaps than any hole in the ozone . . .
written by Glennsopinions, March 25, 2008
written by gregjaye08, March 25, 2008
I suggest you read a news release "Pressure Group Censors Anti-Gore Ad on YouTube" and watch the video banned on YouTube. See http://cei.org/node/20536 It is very enlightening.
or see http://agoodchoice.blogspot.co...y-dim.html
written by Edsopinion.com, March 27, 2008
what about the Wilkens Ice Shelf should I be concerned or just deny it is relevant?
written by Glennsopinions, March 27, 2008
Here is a link that might help you. The ice shelf breaking off this time of year is normal. Its the end of the summer down there.
http://www.antarcticconnection.com/antarctic/science/glaciology.shtml
You fell for the annual BS that comes out every year about Antartica. March is the end of the summer down there and the ice pack always melts way down. The glaciers are constantly moving and feeding the ice shelfs. They have been breaking off for centuries, being replenished by the ice flows higher up on the continent. If you you Google Antartic cooling, you will find that the ice pack during the past Antartic winter (which is our summer here) was the largest and coolest in 50 years. Remember that cruise ship that sank last year? The captain stated that he had not seen ice that far out in all his visits to the continent.
written by Glennsopinions, March 27, 2008
http://www.weatherquestions.com/Roy-Spencer-on-global-warming.htm#preface
Of course, the other thing that Al Gore forgets to mention that 99.5 percent of the makeup of all greenhouse gases is WATER VAPOR. Come to think of it, how does Al Gore know what the right temperature is suppose to be of the globe. Never mind the fact that the satellites have not recorded an increase in the average temperature since 1998. This year had cooled down considerably. Then I would ask, what would be easier for man to deal with. A warm Earth or a new ice age? I have been studying this ever since the '60s when my generation was getting the crap scared out of us because of the comming ice age that was going to kill 1/2 of all mankind.
written by Edsopinion.com, March 27, 2008
written by Glennsopinions, March 28, 2008
http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/09/antarctic-sea-i.html
As a matter of fact, we only have had state of the art temperature measurement since about that time. 100 years ago, temperature was measured with nothing more than what amounts to a rectal thermometer. Those same satellites have not measured an average temperature increase since 1998.
Well, lets see what else is happening in the world. The History Channel Ice Road Trucking season has begun 4 weeks earlier than usual due to the Arctic Ice freezing over early. The ice needs to reach about 40" thick before these 100,000# trucks can run on it. In the High Desert area of Southern California, we have finished our second winter in a row of well below temperatures. In fact, the past two winters we have reached low temps not seen since 1973. Well what else? Sierra snowpack, 115%, Snow Pack above Lake Powell 122%, Many North American cities set records for most days in a row below freezing. I can go on and on. Just follow the money. Get Roy Spencer's book. And keep in mind, his social politics are liberal. He is not a Republican. He is a a scientist with a climate background.
We need to keep the planet clean. We need to get alternative energy, but we do need to drill and gasify coal in the meantime. But give me a break. This is more about control by a few than climate worries. And do you think China is going to stop anytime soon? Over 1/2 the air pollution in the Western US comes from China.
And so what if we are warming. We know that the Earth was once much warmer in the past. Heck, in 1000AD, the Vikings were growing grapes in Greenland. In that time, the climate in Greenland was much like the Napa Valley. So all the ice melts. No one actually knows how much of the weight of the ice is already supported by the ocean level. Some estimates range from 2 feet to 200 feet and everything in between. Geologist may estimate sea level changes by deposits, but the Earth crust has changed a lot since the last time there were no ice packs, it is impossible to tell. So we do get a little warmer, sea level rises and we move people inland. Rain won't stop, because the atmosphere can only hold so much and it holds less in warmer air and the heat escapes. More in colder air and then it acts like a blanket and holds in the heat. If we get another Ice Age, well that will be the catastrophic event. Man could not deal well with that.
Sorry, I need to quit as I can write all night as I have read everything I can get my hands on about climate for the past 45 years ... I just want others to do the same at a library rather than getting their info from TV, Radio, Newspapers, or Internet.
written by Edsopinion.com, March 29, 2008
Friedrich Nietzsche.
The age of the Wilkens shelf has been verified by the study of ice cores. I don't think PBS has an agenda on global warming one way or the other. In fact the media in general would like nothing better to expose global warming as a fallacy.It would sell a lot of news space.
The problem is a majority of the credible experts say we are experiencing global warming. Previously when numerous articles appeared in the press that we may be entering a new ice age it was speculation for what purpose I don't know.It probably made interesting reading at the time and sold newspapers.
Now a large majority of highly credible scientists have come forth and state there is global warming. They are now saying that that is how they interpret the changes they see on the planet. I don't think they want to control the world. Why risk a reputation it took a life time to acquire to make false assertions about global warning. There may be anecdotal evidence of more snow here or higher temperatures there but scientists who study the Earth at major institutions are of the opinion that in the aggregate the data indicates global warming is taking place and that it is due to greenhouse gases generated by human activity. If this is false it seems to me there are plenty of people who would like to make a name for themselves by proving the thesis wrong. So far this has not happened.
written by Glennsopinions, March 30, 2008
I will still be out of town for a while. I was working on a global warming post of my own. I still need to edit it down some as I tend to get real long winded on the subject.
As far as proving what, there is many, many, many scientists who are speaking out against the Al Gore science. I gave you the name of just 1. Roy Spencer.
Remember, I am just skeptical about the extent the man is causing any of the climate change. Not that the climate is changing. It always has and always will.
And the scientists signing up to the Al Gore science. Just follow the money. Gore is getting rich off of carbon credits
written by Edsopinion.com, March 30, 2008
You are right to be a skeptic. I also have my reservations. Just as the alarmist's said we are in a new ice age in the 50's 60's and 70's the alarmist are out there again predicting doom. However reasonable efforts to limit green house gases should be taken if only to shift our energy sources from fossil fuels; oil for political reasons and coal for the destruction it causes in its production and the degree of pollution it causes in its burning.
Al Gore needs to be tried for fraud and tossed in prison. It is one thing use scientific data to support a position. It's quite another to support a position for pure profit (he buys carbon credits from himself), and lie or misrepresent the data used. If you really want a hoot, read the list of scientists he says supports his position. Very few have backgrounds in climate science. And there are some noted medical doctors, OBGYNs, history teachers who just happen to have their doctorate and on and on.
My theory is when Communism fell, they had to go somewhere. How better to control people through economic penalties and fear? There is no God in global warming either, just Father Algore.