Aug 15
2008

McCain Does Not Speak For Me

Posted by Bacchus in Untagged 

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In a recent campaign stop, McCain told the crowd that he had recently spoken to Georgia's embattled president, Mr. Saakashvili. In an attempt to burnish his foreign policy credentials at a time when Obama was cooling off with shaved ices in his native Hawaii, McCain did not mince words with his tough guy rhetoric towards Russia. He referred to Saakashvili as an old friend, and communicated to him on the behalf of all Americans that "we are all Georgians now".

Did I hear that wrong? Excuse me? Who is a Georgian? Unless Atlanta is burning, Americans are not "all Georgians now". McCain, you do not speak for me, and neither do you speak for the vast majority of Americans who did not know that Georgia the nation even existed until this past weekend.

I have a problem with McCain's tough talk because it is opportunistic, irresponsible and frankly, it is a way for him to score points without facing any consequences. It is a dangerous place to pull our politics and also to mislead the public. McCain's response to the Georgian conflict would've brought us close to war with Russia, and over what? Georgia is useless to the United States, it is amongst the least important allied states that we have. If McCain has not noticed, we already have our military tangled up in Iraq and Afghanistan, and if he would have it, quite possibly in Iran too. And this bozo wants us to take on Russia? The same Russia that has a geographic area three times the United States, over 10,000 nuclear warheads and a modern and powerful military?

In this conflict, Russia holds the cards and not the US. The US and the feeble eunuchs we call our European allies, are not going to do anything except for some world class whining and bluffing. The fact is, we don't have any business in Georgia and much of our actions in the past decade or so has been extremely irresponsible in regards to the kind of relationship we have been building with them and other ex-Soviet states. Russia is a major world power, and especially under Putin, it has gotten its house in order and is clearly signaling that it expects to be treated like an equal. The United States has gone too far in trying to recruit states such as Georgia and Ukraine into an anti-Russian alliance (NATO), and has not displayed any form of respect or humility towards Russia. Also lest I forget, it was Georgia, not Russia, that started this most recent conflict. So there is absolutely no reason for the US to sacrifice its own interests and resources, especially when this is a place where Russia will not back down.

On a side note, Bush recently told Russia that "bullying and intimidation is not foreign policy". The reason why the world no longer takes seriously American moral superiority is because American politicians like to preach and not practice. Perhaps Bush had forgotten that the US is occupying two nations right now, and also if our treatment of Iran does not constitute bullying, I don't know what does. The wind coming from Washington seems to be getting louder and louder, but what's new?


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written by CenterLeftLiberal, August 16, 2008
If you ask me the entire Georgian-Russian war just reaks of Cold War. I think what we have ourselves here is a good old fashioned proxy war (in the sense that Russia wants to assert its dominance in the area & stop NATO & U.S. allianes from further enroaching on what they see as their neck of the woods). This all to sad, because we could have made Russia our ally in the early 90s. We could have helped the Russians by providing financial aid & expertise after the USSR and their Centrally Planned Economy collpased. But as Jeffry Sachs, a U.S. economist who'se advised many foreign nations, including formely communist Poland, American politicans and the public were simply not willing to dedicate many resources to helping our former top enemy: Russia (Interestingly, the U.S. extended massive aid to Germany and Japan right after WWII - both of which have become economic powerhouses and U.S. allies; there's something to be said for American mid 20th century foreign policy). Had we extended a helping hand to the Russians, as we did w/ Germany & Japan following WWII, Russia might have become a relatively close ally.
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written by lrandall, August 18, 2008
The US and the international finance institutions such as the IMF did in fact give significant aid and offered loan packages to Russia in the early nineties. However, the privatization that did occur preceded any sort of framework of accountability, and it became a kleptocracy. Those at the top, particulary the ones who orbited around Yelstin, were the largest recipients of the money and aid. It was not used for genuine development, but rather ciphoned away by Yelstin's cronies and then invested out of the country to the peril of Russia and democracy.

As for Georgia, Bacchus - you're absolutely right. The US is in no position to dictate moral responsibility when it comes to international intervention to anyone. Ask 28 million Iraqi's what they think of the US chastising occupation.
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